My College Savings Plan, Look out for #1

The following is a guest post from Sandy L over at First Gen American.  I personally really enjoy the emotion she puts into her writing, so I highly suggest checking out her blog when you get a chance!

Today I’d like to offer an alternative point of view on how people prioritize their savings goals. You see, when I read about most people’s plans, they look something like this:

  1. Pay off Consumer Debt
  2. Build an Emergency Fund
  3. Pay off Student Loans
  4. Save for Kid’s Education
  5. Save for Retirement
  6. Pay off House

I mean even Dave Ramsey says you should save for your kid’s education before you pay off your house, so what gives? Although it is logical to organize your savings goals in chronological order, I hope to convince a few people to move #4 down to the bottom of the list.

My first bit of advice if you have children of any age, is to learn about FAFSA. This is the federal financial aid form. Its purpose is to calculate out a person’s eligibility to receive need based financial aid.

The FINAID site goes into all the nitty gritty details on income limits, scholarships, ownership rules, etc. The two things that everyone should be aware of before saving a dime for college is whose name to put the asset in and what the federal government considers an eligible asset or liability. I won’t touch on all of them in this post but there are 4 big ones that I think everyone should be aware of:

  • 401K and IRA plans – are not considered eligible assets in your need based calculation. (The exceptions are the contributions that occur during the year of the FAFSA application). The good news is the federal government doesn’t expect your 70 year old arthritic self to eat cat food in order to pay for junior’s education today.
  • Your Primary Residence - is not considered an eligible asset...even if it’s 100% paid for. Again, Uncle Sam doesn’t want you to go homeless to pay for Jr’s education.
  • Your consumer Debts – are not considered eligible liabilities. So if you make $100K/year, but have thousands a month in credit card payments and car loans, the federal government doesn’t count those as eligible liabilities. Your income on the other hand does count. Uncle Sam isn’t going to reward you for being a dumb a$$.
  • Certain Durable Goods – like cars, computers, etc are not considered eligible assets.

So what’s my current plan for my kid’s education (ages 1 and 5)? Well, they do both have 529 plans, but they usually only get contributed to during birthday or Xmas time when family members throw them a few bucks. I do plan on eventually contributing, but not until after I max out our retirement plans and pay off our mortgage.

Oh, I guess I do one other thing. Our emergency fund is in savings bonds in our name (better than if in Jr’s name). If we’re lucky enough not to have to tap that til college time, we can cash those in tax free come tuition time.

What’s your plan? Has your mind been changed at all?

Let’s Get Controversial – Paying for College for Kids

I’ve decided to use this week to get through some of the controversial issues I see on other blogs. I’m simply going to post my opinions and see what you think.

Today’s topic:  Fronting College Costs

My hubby and I don’t have kids, but we remember college.  I had some help from my parents and my husband was covered 100%.

I can’t think of anything concrete to base an opinion on.  I had a higher GPA than my husband, but I don’t know if money had anything to do with that.  My parents are retired and my husband’s are not, but I’m not sure if his college expenses are what held them back.  In short, I’m not sure what is best for your situation, but here’s my opinion.

I’d save for retirement before I’d save for my kid’s college expenses.  My kid can get scholarships, grants, a job, or loans.  There is none of that for retired people.  I rather not have to depend on others to provide for me in my old age, so I believe in retirement first.

What if you are good for retirement?  Well, that’s trickier.  I remember how mature and how selfish I was as a teenager.  Yes, I could handle money, but I was sooo manipulative.  I don’t believe my grades would have been worse if my parents had covered me, but I might have gotten into more trouble.  What are your kids like?  Do you think they will see your help as the miracle it is and earn their keep?  Or do you think they will party the nights away since it’s not their money?

If I was a parent and knew I could help, I’d make them this deal.  I have X amount to contribute.  If I see them working their butts off to get all the scholarships and grants as possible, I’ll help them cover the rest if I can.  If they continue to work their butts off, I’ll continue trying to help.  If at any point they decide to take advantage (like fail a class or two or become alcoholics), I’ll pull the plug.

The best idea I’ve heard of was from a lady that left a comment on a blog I read last year.  Her parents agreed to pay for the housing expenses of all 3 of their kids, but the kids had to cover everything else.  This motivated her and her siblings to get as much “free” money as possible and work summers to cover the rest.  That seemed really helpful and fair.

What do you think?  To pay or not to pay, that is the question.  Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.  :-)